Charging

[PAX]

From one of our EE's in response to a recent info@ thread:

"If you are installing a new outlet (And if your current breaker can support it) I would recommend a 240V, 40A service to be installed where you want to put your EVSE (charging station).  The vehicle will only pull up to 13A (on either 120V or 240V), but many EVSEs are designed for 32A continuous operation, and most come with a NEMA 6-50 connector or a hardwired version. If you decide to get another, larger EV in the future or have visitors with EVs, it is nicer (In my opinion) to have a larger charging station to accommodate them. Otherwise, you'll just need a 20A service, although you will be limited to the EVSEs you can use.

Let me know if you have any further questions about choosing an EVSE, there are lots of options out there, and they depend on your budget and plans for charging your vehicle or others."

Some where I heard that the FUV will have an extension cord built in- just plug into any wall outlet and get 110v at 13A which is about max for a 15A circuit. Doesn't get any simpler than that.   About half the speed of 220 at 13A but no special circuit or EVSE needed.It seems that if you want the faster 220V charging than you will need to go through the J1772 and be hooked to 220. The more amps the more cost for the EVSE.

[CreativeGuy]

I have a 30 amp/220V RV plug (TT-30) in my garage/shop that runs my welder. I was planning on using this when I need a quicker charge on my FUV. I'll need to get an adapter. Though most of the time I'll probably just plug it into the standard 110 outlet that is more conveniently located.

[ricschug]

I have a 30 amp/220V RV plug (TT-30) in my garage/shop that runs my welder.  I was planning on using this when I need a quicker charge on my FUV.  I'll need to get an adapter.  Though most of the time I'll probably just plug it into the standard 110 outlet that is more conveniently located.

If you could feed your FUV from 220V I suspect it will be happier, you too

[PAX]

I have a 30 amp/220V RV plug (TT-30) in my garage/shop that runs my welder.  I was planning on using this when I need a quicker charge on my FUV.  I'll need to get an adapter.  Though most of the time I'll probably just plug it into the standard 110 outlet that is more conveniently located.

  The Arcimoto will not have the extension cord plug. You will  need an EVSE. One of the issues of direct wiring to a charger is controlling the start up such that there is no damaging spark and surge and a safe connection.  The EVSE does this and also communicates with the EVCC. 
There are a number of portable EVSE-  some that work on both 120 and 240V source.   We are taking our portable hi/low EVSE with us this weekend for our journey home, so that we can plug into any available source assuming correct plug adapters with 240V.

By the way I just Searched the TT-30  and it is a 125v receptacle from one site:

The TT–30 is a 30A, 120-volt recreational vehicle standard sometime it is called simply RV 30. Frequently it is confused for a NEMA 10–30 (see below) with disastrous results. Due to the appearance of the TT-30 plug, many people assume that it is to be wired for 240-volt, but this is a 120-volt device.

[SparkE]

If it is really 240V, then you may have a NEMA 10 socket (in the U.S.).

If you are positive that it is TT-30, then it is a 120V socket.

Most EVs limit the max amps pulled via 120V to avoid burning down houses to 12 amps (no matter what the EVSE says it can provide).

[CreativeGuy]

The EVSE cable that came with our FUV “Yellow” can be plugged into 110or 220V. I decided not go get any plug adapters and just wired in the required NEMA 6-20 220V plug. Now Yellow (official name to be determined) will charge twice as fast.

[ricschug]

The EVSE cable that came with our FUV “Yellow” can be plugged into 110or 220V.  I decided not go get any plug adapters and  just wired in the required NEMA 6-20 220V plug.  Now Yellow (official name to be determined) will charge twice as fast.

great info Creative Guy. This answers a lot of questions for sure. Any info on charge times?

[PAX]

For Red -   charge time from 10% to 100% on 220 is about 4 hours with the present charger.  They are looking at doubling the size of charger so would cut time in half. No guarantee on that though.      Twice the time at 120.

[ricschug]

Thanks PAX. I thought that the charger was built into the FUV so it simply connects to 110 or 220v. How will you double the size of the charger?

[PAX]

Thanks PAX. I thought that the charger was built into the FUV so it simply connects to 110 or 220v. How will you double the size of the charger?

The charger is in the FUV - can use either 120 or 240. The connecting system is what is called  a J1772 which is standard  for a lot of chargers particular the level 1 & 2 .   You need an EVSE to connect either 120 or 240 source to vehicle-  This provide for safe starting of charging. The EVSE that CG and I received works on both 120 and 140 and signals charger that it is connected and ready to charge. 
 Arc> wanted to include plug on car but found out they would have to meet the same standards as an appliance and decided no go.
Increase charger from 3.3 to 6.6 or something is getting a bigger charger or combiningf two 3.3